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tiger
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Okay, I will ask you guys here. Seems like this crowd is more "into" color stuff than other places on the net. Don't get me wrong I love BW too.
I want to make some nice color prints that look as close to Cibachrome as possible without using Ciba. I have been using a hybrid process for my color stuff for a while now but I can't help but think that if I could just make a wet print it would be clearer/sharper. I think it would, because my BW optical prints blow away anything my scanner and printer can make. So, I could go out and dump a ton of cash for a new scanner or pay out the nose for drum scans and then a printer etc. Or I could just use the darkroom I already have.
I want to try the darkroom route. So, my question to you after all of that is what do you think is the best starting point using existing film and paper to get as close to a Ciba as possible. Keep in mind I will be shooting 35mm, 6X6, and some 6X9.
Portra VC?
fuji pro160C?
Kodak gold?
endura?
fuji chrystal archive?
screw it all and use a lab?
Thanks,
D.
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pachyderm
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| Tough call Derek. There really isn't anything that comes close to Cibachrome (Ilfochrome), but for that you need to shoot transparency film. I've heard of a couple of labs that are still doing Ciba, but only a few. It is a difficult, time consuming process; and expensive to get everything right. It doesn't take a lot of equipment to do, you would need a good Jobo and some drums, temperature isn't too critical, and you could probably find some Cibachrome filters somewhere, or a color head. The only real drawback is that you will probably be limited in size to 11x14 (unless, you have a big bank account). There isn't anything more stunning than a 20x24 inch print (or bigger). Fuji Crystal Archive, in FujiFlex SuperGloss is about the closest you can come to the Cibachrome "look" from a traditional RA-4 paper. To do this as a wet print, you would need to shoot a color negative film. I couldn't tell you which one would be best, since I haven't shot negative film in 20+ years on a regular basis. However, I don't think you would get the saturation/look from color negative film that you get out out using Fuji Velvia (still the standard for landscape photographers).
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tiger
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Thanks Robert. I really don't have the time and money to get into Ciba stuff. I would like to find a color negative film that is well saturated and a way to make some real eye poping prints. It's for a project I have in mind so I can do some experimenting before I settle on what I want to use. I have a vision now I just need to find the tools.
D.
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pachyderm
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I don't blame you, I got out of doing Cibachrome a long time ago because of cost and complexity issues. It's a great process, but at the time I just didn't have the time necessary to become an expert at it.
Robert M. Teague---------------------------------------------
Website: www.visionlandscapes.com
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"Fujifilm remains true to its heritage and to the acknowledged superior image quality delivered by professional photographic film products." -- Fuji Press Release An old Hasidic story says we should wear a coat with two pockets in order to receive God's message. In one pocket, the message is: "You are nothing but one of billions of grains of sand in the universe." In the other, the message is: "I made the universe just for you."
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tiger
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Okay, I found a guy up in Fort Collins that shoots negitive color and it's very saturated. http://www.stephenwillard.com/home.php?retailid=SAW. I guess that is what I want.
D.
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